Exploring the human relationship to change, growth & development.

The Story of Change is a monthly hour-long show hosted by Rod Francis, initially broadcast the fourth Sunday of each month on National Public Radio (WUTC) and then available here to listen to at your leisure.


About the Story of Change

The Story of Change is free ranging exploration of all things related to the topic of change. Everything from what it takes for us to grow and transform individually, how to successfully negotiate change, all the way through to how change manifests socially, in communities, organizations, corporations and nations. And let’s not stop there, even widening out the conversation at times to explore how change occurs and its impact on a global scale.

Hosted by Rod Francis, the program weaves expert opinion such as academics, researchers, thought leaders and spiritual teachers with cross-cultural perspectives and remarkable stories of change from everyday folk, blending the magical and the mundane into a rich, evocative tapestry of learning and discovery. Rod’s aim is that the stories themselves speak their own meta-tale of what change means for us as humans including how we might successfully implement and navigate it.


Listen to the show

Below you'll find our show archive for you to listen in at your convenience following broadcast on WUTC NPR. The most recent two episodes are at the top and below that you'll see a list of the others.


Episode Twenty Three

This episode we’re exploring a very current aspect of social change in how so many societies are fragmenting and polarizing along political fault lines. Even families and sometimes marriages themselves are sadly fracturing due to beliefs and opinions, and these rifts seem insurmountable and ever widening as individuals choose their in and out groups and solidify around their views. My guest today who is Prof. Jennifer McCoy, a Professor of Political Science at Georgia State University and nonresident Scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Her research explores the causes, consequences and solutions to polarized societies around the world, including Venezuela, Turkey, Hungary, Thailand, Hungary, Greece, Bangladesh, Philippines and the United States.


Episode Twenty Two

What does it mean for we humans to change our appearance if not our very bodies? As long as humans have been around and in all cultures we can find some version of body modification yet the popularity of forms such as tattooing and piercing  in recent decades is really quite unprecedented. Today's guest Alex Binnie has been collecting tattoos for over 40 years and making them on others for over 30 and has been at the forefront of change in the body art and modification scene in both the USA and the UK. I met Alex in the mid 90’s when by chance I lived above his highly influential shop Into You in Clerkenwell Central London. We explore change through the lens of the body as canvas and what changes in us—artist and canvas—in that process. We discuss Alex’s rather remarkable life as an artist, musician and performer both here in the USA and in Europe, plus we explore how the field of tattooing and body art itself has changed as an industry over that period.

All Episodes

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